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aideen
Snake mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/07/2011 :  14:07:17  Show Profile  Visit aideen's Homepage  Click to see aideen's MSN Messenger address  Send aideen a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Hi all, I currently keep a wide variety of reptiles, but have recently taken in two new snakes. The first I was told and believed from my research was a Columbian Rainbow Bow but a local pet shop "who claim to be experts" in reptiles have one identical for sale and have informed me it is def not a Columbian.
Also today I have taken in a "dwarf Boa". I took this in as an emergency case as the owners were moving abroad in 3days time and didnt have anyone lined up to take their snake in.
I dont know alot about "dwarf Boas" and may seem a little ignorant on the subject but are Rainbows classed as Dwarfs, its just when handling this beautiful snake earlier the rainbow marking on it were very prominent. My husband who is the expert in the house isnt around for a few days and I would really like to know exactly what it is. Would like to post some pics for further help but cant figure out how. Any help greatly appreciated.

Aideen @ reptilesareus.com

sandi
Hatchling

United Kingdom
150 Posts

Posted - 22/07/2011 :  16:20:57  Show Profile  Visit sandi's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi aideen, as far as i'm aware the term 'dwarf boa' applies to varieties within the BCI (boa constrictor imperator) species, ie, hog island boas or crawl cay boas, both of these will be slightly smaller than the common BCI. However, there are many crosses and morphs along the way so knowing exactly what you have may not be possible without knowledge of parentage etc. Certain colouration and markings are indicative to certain types though so have a look at some pics of peoples hog islands and others to give you a guide. ptmbradley has just posted some great pics.

As for the iridescence, my boa (common bci) has that, especially after he sheds.


Edited by - sandi on 22/07/2011 16:22:36
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aideen
Snake mite

United Kingdom
12 Posts

Posted - 22/07/2011 :  17:31:07  Show Profile  Visit aideen's Homepage  Click to see aideen's MSN Messenger address  Send aideen a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Sandi, i know its a bit cheeky but if i email you some pics could you help me identify?

Aideen @ reptilesareus.com
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gmac
Grumpy Scots Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/07/2011 :  17:34:50  Show Profile  Send gmac an AOL message  Send gmac a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
is best posting photos here to let us have a look and we can give our best opinions

GMac
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aideen
Snake mite

United Kingdom
12 Posts

Posted - 22/07/2011 :  17:35:54  Show Profile  Visit aideen's Homepage  Click to see aideen's MSN Messenger address  Send aideen a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I dont know how to post the pics on here? Help???

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ptmbradley
Hatchling

United Kingdom
105 Posts

Posted - 22/07/2011 :  19:38:39  Show Profile  Visit ptmbradley's Homepage  Reply with Quote
http://www.therainbowboa.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=768

^^^ instructions for posting images.

Boas: 0.1 Arabesque, 1.0 Brazilian Rainbow, 0.1 Crawl Cay, 1.1 Hogg Island X, 0.1 Hypo Hogg, 0.1 Kahl Albino (poss coral)
Corns: 1.1 Anery, 1.1 Butter, 1.0 Carolina, 0.1 Hypo, 1.1 Snow, 1.0 Sunkissed


Edited by - ptmbradley on 22/07/2011 19:39:34
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aideen
Snake mite

United Kingdom
12 Posts

Posted - 22/07/2011 :  20:33:07  Show Profile  Visit aideen's Homepage  Click to see aideen's MSN Messenger address  Send aideen a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote

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aideen
Snake mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/07/2011 :  20:34:37  Show Profile  Visit aideen's Homepage  Click to see aideen's MSN Messenger address  Send aideen a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote

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aideen
Snake mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/07/2011 :  20:35:12  Show Profile  Visit aideen's Homepage  Click to see aideen's MSN Messenger address  Send aideen a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote

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aideen
Snake mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/07/2011 :  20:36:20  Show Profile  Visit aideen's Homepage  Click to see aideen's MSN Messenger address  Send aideen a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote

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aideen
Snake mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 23/07/2011 :  12:30:13  Show Profile  Visit aideen's Homepage  Click to see aideen's MSN Messenger address  Send aideen a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
OK so i managed to post some pics, can anyone help identify species please

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CDN_Blood
Rainbow oddball

Canada
489 Posts

Posted - 23/07/2011 :  13:01:34  Show Profile  Visit CDN_Blood's Homepage  Send CDN_Blood a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
The Rainbow is a Columbian (E.c.maurus) , no doubt about that.

Added: To me, the Boa looks like a Mexican (B.c.imperator) subspecies, commonly now called a 'Crawl Cay'.

I personally don't buy the 'dwarf' tag where Boa constrictors are concerned. Years ago when they weren't on every corner, you could be fairly certain about a boa's genetics and certain subspecies averaged certain sizes, but these days I wouldn't even hazard a guess at most subspecies and/or average sizes. The gene pool is not as clear as it used to be...too many people tracking dirt through it, so to speak, lol.

I will say that judging by the look of the animal, I wouldn't expect 12 feet out of it. I would probably expect around 5 feet, with a possibility of 7 feet or so over the years, but it'll probably stay on the smaller side.

By the way, that's one of the nicest Columbian Rainbows I've seen, colour-wise
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Originally posted by aideen

OK so i managed to post some pics, can anyone help identify species please


TODD
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Edited by - CDN_Blood on 23/07/2011 13:11:24
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aideen
Snake mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 23/07/2011 :  22:13:59  Show Profile  Visit aideen's Homepage  Click to see aideen's MSN Messenger address  Send aideen a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you, he is a beauty. With regards to the dwarf, apparently now hubby is home he confirms it is a Nicaraguan. personally never heard of it and been trying to find some info online without much success as yet but I will keep looking.

Aideen @ reptilesareus.com
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aideen
Snake mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 23/07/2011 :  22:15:08  Show Profile  Visit aideen's Homepage  Click to see aideen's MSN Messenger address  Send aideen a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Oh and im not too convinced of the dwarf part as it is CB07 and already 5ft and very heavy.

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sandi
Hatchling

United Kingdom
150 Posts

Posted - 25/07/2011 :  19:59:33  Show Profile  Visit sandi's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Sorry i didnt get back to you before! meanwhile i have to say i agree with cdn, crawl cay would have been my guess but I'm far from being an expert. I have heard of Nicaraguans but thought they were darker.

I have a CB07 male common boa, he is just under 6ft but was under fed and mistreated when i got him so playing catch up. Either way you do have a gorgeous looking boa there!
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