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hiper2009
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 Posted - 13/10/2010 : 20:38:05
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Hi all you know i have been having problems with Mayhem refusing to feed and being assist fed well however i was supposed to resort to live feeding for this friday but my fianceé said to just try offer him a ratpup for this evening so we know 100% he is a problem feeder then resorting to live prey and guess what we waited until after sunset and dimmed the lights and got the f/t ratpup and poked a few holes in the head to draw out bits of the brain and we heatted the ratpup up so it was warmish , and then i offerd Mayhem it but he was extreamly intrested in it but didn't take it until after about 3 to 4 mins but i'm so happy that he has fed on his own and not needed to resort to live either i have snapped a few pics of tonight and when i have time i will try upload them to here.   |
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Snakesitter
Rainbow Master
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Posted - 13/10/2010 : 21:17:19
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| Congrats, Ash! I'm so glad some of those tips worked out for you! Now just lave the little guy alone for three days or so to digest (in other words, a bit on the long side, just to make sure). |
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hiper2009
Banned
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Posted - 13/10/2010 : 21:35:14
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Originally posted by Snakesitter
Congrats, Ash! I'm so glad some of those tips worked out for you! Now just lave the little guy alone for three days or so to digest (in other words, a bit on the long side, just to make sure).
Thanks Cliff , me and my misses have just checked up on him and he has a very nice huge bump  Will leave him alone for 4 days apart from changing his water everyday and spraying to keep humidity up , Just hope he takes another feed like this in 5 days time , so he is next due a feed around the 20th.
Your tips worked wonders thank you so much i have made a note in my diary of those tips i also think these's tips should be stickyed to the forum for non feeders so it helps others. Your a super star Cliff what would i have done with out you i owe you a beer  heheh once again thank you buddie .. |
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Snakesitter
Rainbow Master
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Posted - 13/10/2010 : 23:12:37
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I'd give him more like a week between meals, no sense pushing it when he's just getting started.
Any time, happy to help -- and delighted he's eating! |
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hiper2009
Banned
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/10/2010 : 23:24:00
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Originally posted by Snakesitter
I'd give him more like a week between meals, no sense pushing it when he's just getting started.
Any time, happy to help -- and delighted he's eating!
Oh right but him and his sister are my breeding pair in a like 2 to 3 years time when big enough and old enough don't i have to feed him up ? His sister (Bow) has not missed one feed yet and is bulking up very nice she ate two ratpups today i didn't want to offer a 2nd for Mayhem as i thought he will most probs won't take it.
How old do BRBS have to be for breeding ? And what length and weight ? |
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Snakesitter
Rainbow Master
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Posted - 14/10/2010 : 00:32:13
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Originally posted by hiper2009
Oh right but him and his sister are my breeding pair in a like 2 to 3 years time when big enough and old enough don't i have to feed him up ? His sister (Bow) has not missed one feed yet and is bulking up very nice she ate two ratpups today i didn't want to offer a 2nd for Mayhem as i thought he will most probs won't take it.
Be *very* careful with aggressive feeding and Brazilians. While you can (usually) get away with it when they are younger, Brazilians are very slender snakes by build (thus their alternate name of the "slender boa"), and thus quite prone to obesity in captivity.
Moreover, there is good evidence that overfeeding, however well-intentioned, results in much (and tragically) shorter lifespans for animals.
The only time I've ever fed two food items, even to a youngster who is growing fast, is when I was using up smaller prey items. It's better to take it slow, steady, and healthy than to rush the process.
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Originally posted by hiper2009
How old do BRBS have to be for breeding ? And what length and weight ?
Generally, I would urge people to wait until a female is over three years old and over 2000 grams. I've seen it attempted -- sometimes successfully -- as young as 2.5 years/1500 grams, but it has a lower success rate, and I feel it is detrimental to an animal that would be better served devoting its energy to another year of growth. Males, of course, have lower needs, as they do not need to support young. |
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hiper2009
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/10/2010 : 09:43:59
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Thank you Cliff for fast responce , However Bow was fed two ratpups due to not being able to get hold of rat fluffs around this area so thought well i will have to just feed her two ratpups until i can find an breeder that sells rat fluffs.
How old does the male have to be and what weight for breeding ? |
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Snakesitter
Rainbow Master
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Posted - 14/10/2010 : 22:19:30
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That makes sense, I'll feed multiple smaller items too when I can't find the right size.
I'd go with three years and 1500+ grams. |
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IncurableFlirt
Yearling
USA
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Posted - 15/10/2010 : 04:19:15
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Yay! Congrats on Mayhem eating! That is wonderful news. Though I have not ever bred boas (even Rainbow ones), I do have to agree with everything that Snakesitter has said. I have read a TON of info on breeding boas and it is not the easiest thing! I would definitely make sure that your female and male are both of proper weight and size (again, Snakesitter's suggestions are spot on) before even attempting it.
I also agree about the feeding. Take it easy on your boy. As Snakesitter has said, give him a full week before you try again, otherwise you are likely to come up with the same problem of him refusing to eat. Need to give him time to get hungry again. |
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hiper2009
Banned
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15/10/2010 : 11:34:33
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Originally posted by IncurableFlirt
I also agree about the feeding. Take it easy on your boy. As Snakesitter has said, give him a full week before you try again, otherwise you are likely to come up with the same problem of him refusing to eat. Need to give him time to get hungry again.
OK i will give him until the 22nd to 25th to have his next feed. Thank you to the both of you for support . |
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Snakesitter
Rainbow Master
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Posted - 15/10/2010 : 19:15:37
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Thank for the kind words, Incurable.
Any time, Ash -- always happy to help fellow rainbow owners! Fingers crossed for a successful next feeding! |
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hiper2009
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Posted - 18/10/2010 : 14:38:41
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Originally posted by Snakesitter
Thank for the kind words, Incurable.
Any time, Ash -- always happy to help fellow rainbow owners! Fingers crossed for a successful next feeding!
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hiper2009
Banned
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19/10/2010 : 11:42:58
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| I know i should have waited until the 22nd - 25th for Mayhems next feed but i got all excited and thought i will just try him and guess what he ate for me again but as usual he took a few mins for him to take it but he ate which is the main thing. |
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Snakesitter
Rainbow Master
USA
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Posted - 19/10/2010 : 16:44:17
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That he ate is good. However, be careful: rushing things, especially feeding, can nip a keeper in the butt.
Did you use any of the same tricks as last time? |
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hiper2009
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Posted - 19/10/2010 : 20:12:56
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Originally posted by Snakesitter
That he ate is good. However, be careful: rushing things, especially feeding, can nip a keeper in the butt.
Did you use any of the same tricks as last time?
Yes i used the feed after sun set , and i defrosted then blasted it over with hairdryer which heated it super nice then brained it then offerd it and he took it within 4 mins so was chuffed |
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Snakesitter
Rainbow Master
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Posted - 20/10/2010 : 00:08:28
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| LOL hairdryer, nice! At least it looked good going down.... |
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HE ATE !!!!
