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Tui
New Member
Finland
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 Posted - 07/04/2011 : 18:42:47
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Hello again all :)
I was just wondering here that what kind of a risk is too high temp for brbs? I have a book that says 78-82 F for nights and 85-90 F for days? How is that even possible that someone has allowed something like that to be written??!!
I want to know more why is the temp so dangerous for brb. Does the heat need to be continual to do damage or does it even do damage? Maybe something like heat exhaustion kills the snake?
Please do tell if you know :) |
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1.0.1 Pantherophis guttatus, CB FIN
0.0.1 Morelia viridis "Sorong"/Poss HY, CB SWE
0.1.0 Epicrates c. cenchria, CB FIN
0.0.1 Acanthoscurria geniculata CB FIN
0.0.2 Hymenopus coronatus CB FIN
0.0.1 Grammostola pulchra CB HUN
0.0.1 Ephebopus cyanognathus CB SWE
0.0.2 Avicularia versicolor CB SWE&GBR
0.0.1 Avicularia geroldi CB GBR
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Snakesitter
Rainbow Master
USA
2718 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2011 : 19:13:21
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Tui--
Anything over 85F is potentially dangerous to these snakes if maintained for more than a few hours. For safety, I'd regard is as a hard target, as I'd never want anyone to have to find out what "too long" is. Furthermore, I'd keep your high number a few degrees under that (say, 82F), and make sure there is always a cool spot the animal can retreat to if desired.
When first kept, people tried to keep rainbow boas as they had successfully kept other types of boa, and it did not work out well. I would guess, but cannot guarantee, that the older "90F" figures date from that period.
Temperature limits are identical for night and day, though many people use a "night drop" feature to simulate the natural world.
I'd not sure what the technical underpinning is for why these snakes cannot deal with the heat, I just know to avoid it.
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CDN_Blood
Rainbow oddball
Canada
489 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2011 : 20:03:29
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The temperatures you've read about there are likely mean temps for the areas these snakes would naturally be found in, however, it's not like they'd be sitting out in the sun basking all day and enjoying that. I think you'd find more of them hiding in cool refuges during those highs, while being more active during the cooler hours of the night.
As for night time temperature drops, I have personally always practiced that and will continue to do so until I'm too old to keep snakes any longer. It's during the cooler temperatures that the snakes get active, which keeps them more healthy than something that is continually the same temperature. Constant temps *can* make a snake lethargic and cranky. I'm not saying it always will, it just can do that. I've found the temperature drop at night effective and welcomed by everything from Corn Snakes to Anacondas, as well as lizards and invertebrates, but hey, that's just me  |
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Snakesitter
Rainbow Master
USA
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Posted - 07/04/2011 : 20:29:36
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| CDN has an excellent point: *especially* if your entire viv is at one temp or has only a slight gradient from high end to low end, night drops are essential. I usually have a pretty good gradient going, and the natural temp drop at night (when Brazilians are most active anyway) increases it further. |
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Tui
New Member
Finland
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Posted - 08/04/2011 : 07:46:32
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Thank you guys for clearing that up for me :)
I have been discussing this with finnish snakekeeper and he keeps the high temp in 30 degrees, and i picked that up right away and told him, that he should lower that temp.
It quite hard to explain why, when I completely dont know that myself either :) But
with your help, i now can explain this better!
I think my temp is at 28 degrees and she always wants to hide in the cooler end ;)
But as soon as lights go out, she starts slithering about :D
And gongrats CDN for such a long time herpin'!! :)
Im behind by 15 years :D |
http://finlegion.webs.com
1.0.1 Pantherophis guttatus, CB FIN
0.0.1 Morelia viridis "Sorong"/Poss HY, CB SWE
0.1.0 Epicrates c. cenchria, CB FIN
0.0.1 Acanthoscurria geniculata CB FIN
0.0.2 Hymenopus coronatus CB FIN
0.0.1 Grammostola pulchra CB HUN
0.0.1 Ephebopus cyanognathus CB SWE
0.0.2 Avicularia versicolor CB SWE&GBR
0.0.1 Avicularia geroldi CB GBR
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CDN_Blood
Rainbow oddball
Canada
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Posted - 08/04/2011 : 11:25:51
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Well I think we're all just glad we could help. Everyone's input is valuable and by the time a thread has run it's course, you can read through all the different opinions and form your own from it, which is what makes a forum such a great thing.
I'd say you're on the right track with 28 degrees...not too high, not too low; safe.
Thanks for the congratulations, it's been an awesome ride which I wouldn't trade for anything. By the way, your 10 years is nothing to sneeze at. If you've made it that far, you're quite dedicated  |
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Snakesitter
Rainbow Master
USA
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Posted - 08/04/2011 : 17:41:56
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What CDN said!
It always surprises me how many people keep rainbows too warm. I've even seen a few very sad cases where animals were lost because of it. :-( |
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Posted - 08/04/2011 : 18:48:33
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I keep my brb at the same temps at my corns so the warm end is around 28-29c.
I think some people see 'boa' and assume they will need higher temps. My other boas are very happy at 30-32c. |
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Tui
New Member
Finland
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Posted - 09/04/2011 : 09:36:51
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I'm glad i can get advice to pass on to others :)
And because im so new at this myself, i appreciate all the information i get. My
search for info goes further than just care sheets, i want to know other things as well :)
The more i know, the more i understand these snakes and their natural habitat. Maybe thats just my nature to search things, but i find it very interesting.
And on top of that i get to discuss these things with others, much more experienced snake keepers.
Life's good ;) |
http://finlegion.webs.com
1.0.1 Pantherophis guttatus, CB FIN
0.0.1 Morelia viridis "Sorong"/Poss HY, CB SWE
0.1.0 Epicrates c. cenchria, CB FIN
0.0.1 Acanthoscurria geniculata CB FIN
0.0.2 Hymenopus coronatus CB FIN
0.0.1 Grammostola pulchra CB HUN
0.0.1 Ephebopus cyanognathus CB SWE
0.0.2 Avicularia versicolor CB SWE&GBR
0.0.1 Avicularia geroldi CB GBR
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Snakesitter
Rainbow Master
USA
2718 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2011 : 17:14:45
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| More research is always a good step, as single care sheets can be wrong. Good call! :-) |
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Dangerous temperatures
